tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6167250939484647451.post5898830811472423265..comments2024-03-18T00:15:32.042-07:00Comments on Cole-Slaw: Church Transfusion: Releasing Organic Life Into Established ChurchesNeil Colehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08289317696474966831noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6167250939484647451.post-49640645614609178052012-05-23T08:02:53.549-07:002012-05-23T08:02:53.549-07:00Hey Kathleen, I'm interested to see your book ...Hey Kathleen, I'm interested to see your book when it comes out. There's a lot to say on this hot topic and the more people who speak out the better.<br /><br />I quoted part of your comment in my latest blog article, <a href="http://jesus.scilla.org.uk/2012/05/little-and-large.html" rel="nofollow">Little and large</a>Chris Jefferieshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07024046243018838005noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6167250939484647451.post-28639579528905848422012-05-22T23:12:01.346-07:002012-05-22T23:12:01.346-07:00Hi Neil,
I'm really excited to find a referen...Hi Neil,<br /><br />I'm really excited to find a reference to your new book, "Church Transfusion", coming out later this year. I am currently writing a similar book, called "Church in a Circle." Of course, I don't know if they are similar at all - but my husband and I are passionate about seeing elements of organic church move into the established church, and change it from within. <br /><br />I've started a blog at churchinacircle.com with some exerpts from my book. I have 4 young kids, so the writing process is taking some time, but I'm getting towards the end of the first draft. I wouldn't mind sending you a pdf for feedback once I've got an initial draft together? I've read some of your other books and like the way you think!<br /><br />Thanks for your contribution to the church worldwide,<br /><br />KathleenKathleenhttp://churchinacircle.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6167250939484647451.post-35254775296216647882011-09-20T17:14:29.118-07:002011-09-20T17:14:29.118-07:00Neil-
Just finished "Journeys Into Signif...Neil-<br /> Just finished "Journeys Into Significance" - incredible book! I'm sure the new book will help many pastors/ministers who feel "stuck" in the institutional gears of the machine to take small but giant steps toward missional/organic change in the local church. I recently learned the hard way that transfusing an established church's culture of consumerism with a Biblical mission-centeredness is a very risky deal. I could have probably used a book like this one to help with some of the issues at play. Now, I am forced to sit on the outside(currently without a job) and pray for my former church to not step back from where God has led them in the past 18 months.natenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6167250939484647451.post-33003349558827462492011-09-18T07:04:19.251-07:002011-09-18T07:04:19.251-07:00Neil, we are very excited to hear about this new p...Neil, we are very excited to hear about this new project! We are in the planning stages of a discipleship / transfusion, and we really have to watch "boundaries" so that we do not alienate leadership before we begin!<br /> Another leader and myself just finished CHURCH 3.0, and we were absolutely thrilled with what we saw and learned! We are eagerly awaiting this new project as we plan our own churches future discipleship and growth!<br /> When might we expect the new book being released?<br /> Thanks for all you do, and God bless brother!<br /> In Christ, SteveSteveOhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06545770901630322486noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6167250939484647451.post-12974926486040355722011-09-17T11:42:23.188-07:002011-09-17T11:42:23.188-07:00I have found that it is best to start where the go...I have found that it is best to start where the good soil is and not necessarily the top or the bottom. If the leadership is against organic principles than you are likely not going to see a change int he church, that is true. If leadership is good than the change can come from the grassroots in a congregation.Neil Colehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08289317696474966831noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6167250939484647451.post-43318821500516405552011-09-17T11:40:26.557-07:002011-09-17T11:40:26.557-07:00The book is still being written, so pray for us as...The book is still being written, so pray for us as we continue it. <br /><br />One thing that is important to realize, those who serve as clergy are not the enemy, they are victims of a lie as well. Our true enemy is the liar himself, and the only power he has in in the lie. What heals is not to attack those who are victims of the lie, but to reveal the truth that evaporates the lie.<br /><br />Pressing on,<br /><br />NeilNeil Colehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08289317696474966831noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6167250939484647451.post-58670533926199099832011-09-17T02:46:43.775-07:002011-09-17T02:46:43.775-07:00Follower1, you've touched on a serious issue. ...Follower1, you've touched on a serious issue. You are absolutely right, it's often the rank and file who pick up on the value and potential of organic ideas.<br /><br />Unless the fruit of the Spirit is abundantly evident (Galatians 5:22-23), this will lead to tension and disagreement on the one hand or frustration on the other. The outcome can be distressing and unhelpful in the extreme.<br /><br />If the change comes top-down it may result in home groups being released to do much more for themselves. If it comes bottom-up it is more likely to result in acrimonious splits.<br /><br />Either way there's a great need for love, wisdom, prayer and gentleness along with an uncritical spirit.<br /><br />But the potential dangers shouldn't prevent us making the attempt! We just need to be careful and wise.Chris Jefferieshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07024046243018838005noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6167250939484647451.post-28820880681927808892011-09-16T19:37:57.120-07:002011-09-16T19:37:57.120-07:00Great idea and very needed. Change often initiate...Great idea and very needed. Change often initiates at the top of traditional churches. I wonder how organic principles grow and take root. Would it depend on the church leadership or could it be bottom up? I find people in the pews adopt these ideas sooner than paid staff.follower1https://www.blogger.com/profile/09181650850203414265noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6167250939484647451.post-22339738279696964742011-09-16T14:01:30.535-07:002011-09-16T14:01:30.535-07:00I am so glad this book has been written and traini...I am so glad this book has been written and training meetings planned. In the house/organic/small world we sometimes think we have more truth than conventional denominations - maybe we do. But I don't think that's really the point.<br /><br />Do we truly love the body or do we only love the head and the elbow or foot or whatever part we are most closely attached to?<br /><br />Jesus loves the entirety of his body and wants it all to grow and flourish. This is a great way to reach across the divide (a divide that should not even exist).<br /><br />I need to listen and talk and share, bless and encourage and challenge <i><b>all</b></i> of the body, not just the bit I happen to be attached to.<br /><br />Great stuff Neil, keep on keeping on. You are appreciated and valued.Chris Jefferieshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07024046243018838005noreply@blogger.com